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      My Benchpress, as promised

      Dunno how to embed the you tube file......just click to see it.

      YouTube - ‪C:\Documents and Settings\admin\Desktop\Old Man Graham Presses 160kg.flv‬‏


      Any tips Straad??

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      now i need to film my sly fox bench presses 5kgs

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    The good:
    1. your grip is wide, i like it. geometrically the wider your grip the less distance you have to move the bar to lock out your elbows

    2. your sticking point is low middle (#2 below will help that) but your triceps look very strong (in competition we use shirts, strong triceps are more important than a strong chest)


    I would change (or work on)

    1. change your stance
    looked like your ass moved that would red light you
    plant your shoulder blades where you want them, grab the bar, and then force your tailbone up the bench as far as you can toward your shouderblades
    this will cause you to arch your back (which is what your body is trying to do by raising your ass) while at the same time leaving your ass on the bench and therefor passing your lift
    I would also widen your feet so your can drive through them.
    when you bench for a 1 rep max you want to use your whole body. you are benching with just your arms and chest
    which leads us to #2

    2. Dont be afraid to hit your chest.
    You seemed to slow down and maybe even turn the weight around with strength. Thats a waste of strength. let the weight come down, dont bounce. in a competition you must stop at the bottom. but you can lower it as fast as you want (dont hurt yourself, not that fast) do u get what i mean.
    I tell people to imagine a fire cracker on their chest, and when the weight hits the fire cracker it goes off and you fire every muscle in your entire body from your toes to your forehead. Imagine if your wife was trapped under a car and you had to bench it off, you wouldn't be isolating a couple muscle groups.

    3. I would try to bring your elbows in
    This would be the hardest thing to change and would take a lot of time
    but with your stance changed and your back arched you want to press more like a dip
    you are pressing like a bodybuilder. nothing wrong with that for working out. it stresses the chest nice, but doing a 1 rep max is different than working out.
    do some dips and notice in a mirror where your elbows are, you are much stronger here as you are using more tricep and lat and less shoulder (shoulders are small and weak)
    you will never be able to get your elbows in as tight as a dip but thats your goal

    #4 I would wrap your wrists. Why? Why not? it is allowed and it gives you one less thing to have to use your own strength doing

    #5 just a tip. As you get tot he top of a bench you can drop your shoulders and pull your elbows in thereby taking yet another inch or so out of the lift
    You didnt need this as your tri's are not your problem, but as you go up they may be later



    and gratz again, nice weight

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    Thanks Straad,

    I'll try to post another clip that is stored on my daughter's phone.

    I repeated the rep later that night and she filmed it from a different angle.

    You are right about my triceps....they seem to be one of my better bodyparts. Whereas my chest isn't that good.

    To be honest, I dunno if I'm gonna try to improve my one rep max. At my age, it places a lot of stress on the joints, supporting muscles, etc.

    I'd love to bench 400Lb for the sake of ego but I think the preparation would break my body down.

    Lately, I've been using lower weights but doing a really slow cadence. 5 seconds down, 5 seconds up per rep. This realy tires the target muscles. Also I'm sure it causes less joint and tendon damage.

    Thanks for taking a look and giving me some food for thought. I'll let you know if I try it again

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    1 rep max isnt good for you
    i wouldnt let my kids powerlift
    tears your body up
    and to really compete, its like pro bodybuilding, you would need to take so much gear its unbelievable
    no i steered them to martial arts

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    Thats a good bent over row your sons got

    jokin mate. good lift.

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    That's a very heavy lift by anyones standards...so props to you mate.

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    Nice job mate.

    Stradd some great comments my bench has always been a bit pants will give some of your suggestions a try.

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    Assistance work for chest

    In a previous article I discussed benching and a couple of different techniques depending on your goals. In this article I will discuss several assistance movmenmts and how to incorporate them into your routine.

    As discussed before your “weak link” is the area you stall on benching. For example if you are getting pinned to the bench then obviously you’re weak off the chest. How do you fix this? For your main movement I suggest paused flat bench in the low to moderate rep range. As far as assistance for this I like paused dumb bell work or paused floor press and these anywhere from low to high rep range. I also found that heavy db flies can add a nice boost to your off the chest power. These can be done either flat or with a sight incline in the moderate to high rep range.

    Now if you’re getting stuck half way up then a different approach is needed. Once again paused work works nice here but just move the starting position up to about 2” below your sticking point. This can be done either in a power rack or with boards. Bands can also help this as well. I like behind the band back db bench. YouTube - ‪Band Db Press (www.trainatp.com)‬‏ paused floor press with db’s works for this one as well.

    If you are stalling out near lockout on bench then loading up the top end will make a difference. Once again the paused pin presses will do the trick. Set up the pins about 2” below the sticking point. Banded benching or benching with chains will make a difference too. Typically these main movements work best in the low to moderate rep range. If the top end is the sticking point hitting a lot of tri work 2xw will be a great addition. I love tri ext against band tension. Decline benching with pinkies on the rings and even push press will help.

    As you may have noticed a lot of the guys I train bench 2xw. I’ll typically have them do a lower session and an upper session each week.

    It may be set up something like this:

    Day 1
    Paused flat bench, 1-3 sets of 1-10 reps
    Paused db flat bench, 1-3 sets 5-10 reps
    Either db or machine flies, 2-3 sets of 5-25 reps
    Some type of side laterals, 2-3 sets of 10-20 reps
    Either face pulls or pull a parts w/bands, 2-3 sets of 10-25 reps

    Day 2
    Paused pin press, 1-3 sets of 1-10 reps (normally about 4-6” off the chest)
    Banded db bench, 1-3 sets of 5-10reps
    Decline bench, 2-3 sets of 3-15 reps (pinkies on the rings)
    Push press, 1-3 sets of 5-10 reps
    Upright row, 1-3 sets of 5-20 reps
    Jm press, 2-3 sets of 5-15 reps

    Once again these are not set in stone but just a basic outline on how to set up a bench routine. You’ll notice I added in pull a parts or face pulls on one of the days. It’s important that you work the rear delt/upper back as that plays a large part in healthy shoulders and stabilizing your bench.

    Here is a list of movements that will help your bench. Some of these can be used as the main movement and others are better suited as assistance work.

    Bb flat bench, w/dbs too
    Bb incline bench, w/dbs too
    Bb decline bench, w/dbs too
    Guillotine press
    Floor press
    Pin press
    Push press
    Dips
    Jm press
    Skull crushers
    Tri ext
    Db bench
    Banded benching
    Chained benching
    Chain w/band benching
    Suspended band benching http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1235546631945#
    Push ups
    Face pulls
    Pull a part
    Incline or flat db flies
    Machine flies
    Machine side laterals
    Db side laterals

    Leg drive plays an important part in benching you’re looking for bigger numbers over sheer size. If you want to incorporate leg drive spend 4-6 weeks benching with your butt off the bench. Keep your feet planted and traps dug into the bench. Hold that position the entire set. This will teach leg drive.

    Squeezing your shoulder blades together will shorten the stroke as well. Keep them together the entire time until after you rack the weight. This can knock 3-4” off the total stroke of the bench.

    Learning to arch your lower back can knock a few inches off the stroke as well. Place a 4” piece of PVC under your lower back while benching to teach a good arch.

    Benching is the opposite of dead lifting in these terms. On deads you want your arms as long as possible. On bench you want them as short as possible. Shortening the range of motion o bench lessens the amount of work required to move the same amount of weight.

    Another factor overlooked in benching is that if your dead lift and squat are moving your bench will typically follow. Most guys bench will be somewhere around 55-60% of their dead lift. This is a rule of thumb I use that is normally close. There are some exceptions depending on body type and injuries.

    You guys remember to do your rotator work and shoulder stretched before every upper session. Benching is a terrible movement when it comes to shoulder health. Be safe and be smart with your benching.

    -EXMGQ

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    A friend brought a couple guys from work over to bench with us this weekend cause he said they were so damn strong
    my shoulder is so fucked i can bench but then i cant move my arm for a week, but my training partner didnt let me down (I still have a little bit of ego in there)
    They are strong but it really makes you feel good to destroy people who are really strong
    they warmed up and moved up fast 135, 225, and looked strong
    then at 315 they got 3 difficult reps. Con-dog lays down and pumps out 10 easy and their eyes go wide...LOL
    they then failed at 350, 365 etc, saying they had done them before, and they probably had, new gym, bench and all
    con-dog then did 365, 405, 455, and 495

    and we were nice to them and offered to have them back and help them, they are young, like 23-24 so they will probably be strong as hell
    but after working out so damn long and hard for years and year it makes you feel good to destroy young kids who are stronger than everyone they have ever met
    I would never tell them, just you guys

    The other young kid that has been lifting with us just got his first bench shirt in the mail
    he hit 280.....he is 15 years old, freshman in high school
    this kid is going to be strong if he doesn't get hurt

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