Thread: pharma test vs ugl

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Originally Posted by goose

Ok guys, I know this topic has been mentioned over the past but with the quality of gear in ugl constantly changing i wanted to know if anyone had a genuine preference for pharma or ugl test. For me I always find ugl test to be overdosed and the injection being more painful. In terms of effects the pharma also always wins. But the price difference is a major factor! Whats your preference anyone?

Hey goose, im another ugl fan but only because of cost and trust.
there is so many fakes out there now. some of the fakes are just as good as the originals, and i mean honestly, just as good! you can put the fake next to the original and struggle to see any differences whatsoever.
even your source is struggling to tell the difference, so what chances do we have?
for me, ugl is cheaper and if you find the right one, a trusted one then you cant go wrong.
i dont think your mention of pain is just down to concentration of hormone. sometimes the pain can be as a result of high ba.
heres a story for you which is true.
pro chem used to be one of the best ugl labs out there, producing some great blends that were very strong. unfortunately due to the strength of product, the hormone was having trouble in the muscle.
some guys were reporting pip. me personally, i never suffer with pip, and to be honest, even if i did, i would rather suffer with a day or two of pain in my glute than 12 weeks of the pain in my wallet due to fake or underdosed gear.
anyways, the pip reports on pro chem continued so pro chem reduced the dosage and the pip reports stopped. but now pro chem were sending out underdosed gear.
there is a lab report online somwhere which shows a vial of test cyp that should have contained 200mg to contain only 110, or was it 120? i cant remember.
anyways, the point is, its a fine line that the ugl's have to toe, we all want high dosed gear but at the same time we dont want the pip associated with it.
you need to find a lab that is honest with its content and that does everything it can to minimise pip such as ba and bb ratios.
for me, the new lab over in the uk jdl has gotten the balance as close to perfect as possible.
they used to do a product called jdl test400 but there were too many pip reports with it. they didnt start underdosing it and continue selling it, they took it off the shelfs.
from using there gear ive found 300mg seems to be the best dosage without giving any pip, anymore and the pip starts to show itself.
they do a product called jdl eqtest600 which is a combination of esters, but still only 300mg of each ester, this combo is painless and an absolute gem.
another lab over here in the uk that has just opened that you might like to try is genesis. they are brand new, but i know they are good to go. the only thing im not so sure on though is the lab conditions. it could very well be a home operation and if it is, you do need to question quality.
rohms is another lab that is reported to be good, i have never used rohms but i know many guys that have with success.
i know pip is a pain in the ass, (like the pun?) but if its not doubling you over, dont worry too much about it, often virgin muscle or rather muscle not used to the hormone can respond worse than others, and you may find that the pip goes away. i know guys that had pip in the first 2 or 3 weeks and then the rest of the cycle was pip free.