Thread: How to cycle Deca, Test, and D-bol

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Hey everyone. I am pretty new to steroids. I've been pretty skinny and lightweight my entire life. I am 29 years old and work for a fire department. My main goal is to gain lean muscle and build my upper body - the hardest thing for me to do, especially my chest.

When I first started (at 145lbs), I took only Dbol – Methandienone - 100 x 10mg. I took 3a day and gained 15lbs, keeping 10 by the end. I DID notice a pretty good change so i decided to continue experimenting, but I need some guidance.

About 4 months later, I purchased:
Deca - Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/ml (taking 1x p/week)
Ripped 200 - Test prop - Tren acetate – Winstrol blend 200mg/ml, (taking 2x p/week)
Dbol – Methandienone - 100 x 10mg, (taking 3x a day)

I am about 3 weeks into this cycle and am steady gaining about 3lbs a week and like the results. I now weigh about 168lbs. And I work out twice a week, but fire/rescue is pretty exerting in itself... So my questions are:
1) Are these the supps I should be taking?
2) How long (greatest length of time) I should be taking any/all of these (seperate or together)
3) Is there something else I should be taking? (Is there something healthier I should take?)
4) Is this supposed to be a life-time regimine in order to work?
5) Willl these results last?
FYI. I dont seem to be having any negative effects . Again I really need help building AND KEEPING my upper body, especially my chest. Thanks in advance!!

Hi romerica. Welcome to gmj

TBH seeing as your a novice to steds (this being your 2nd cycle) you're taking too many meds in that stack in my opion. You do have some nolva on hand incase your nipples start to itch don't you? Id run that cycle for 6weeks only.

The dose look about right though to be fair. The mix of substances in your ripped blend are all very fast acting so ensure you inject before your workout days. How do you break down your 2 day splits?

Yes there are safer options out there, your using very strong substances in your current stack so if your were to try a primo/var stack you'll most likely not like the modest results they'd give in comparison.

Hi Mate and welcome to the board

Cant really add much to what has already been wrote as its all spot on.

Keep us up to date though...

Ok, I have no idea about some of the things you guys mentioned, sorry.
I am almost out of the Ripped. Should I order more to keep up the 10 weeks? I was advised to take this 2x p/week, and one of those times, with Deca (so Deca 1x p/week). And I still have at least half the Deca bottle. The manufacturer of these products is zaralone international.
Again, my main goal is to gain muscle mass (as much as possible and keep it and also build my chest b/c Its what i have most trouble with.) I do not have any gyno problems.. If anything, the opposite.

Here is what I am able to get my hands on:
(Injectables) (All Injectables are 10ml)
Test 200 – Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml
Deca - Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/ml
Masteron – Drostanolone Propionate 100mg/ml
Primo – Methenolone Enanthate 100mg/ml
Test 250 – Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml
Testosterone Blend (4 esters) 500mg/ml
Ripped 200 - Test prop - Tren acetate – Winstrol blend 200mg/ml
Test 100 – Testosterone Propionate - 100mg/ml
Tren 200 - Trenbolone Enanthate - 200mg/ml
Trenbolone Acetate - 80mg/ml
Tri Tren - Trenbolone Acetate/Enanthate/Hex - 150mg/ml - 50mg per ester
Equipose – Boldenone Undecylenate - 200mg/ml
Tri Test 400 - Trenbolone / Testosterone Blend - 400mg/ml - 2 x test esters,3 x tren esters
Nolvadex 60 x 20mg
Clomid 24 x 50mg
Proviron 50 x 50mg

Orals (british dragon eu tabs)
Winny – Stanozolol - 100 x 10 mg
Dbol – Methandienone - 100 x 10mg
A50's(Drol) – Oxymetholone - 100 x 50mg
Halo – Halotestex - 50 x 10mg
Arimidex - 50 x 1mg 30
Anavar - (Oxandrolone) - 50 x 10mg
(Other)
clenbuterol (chinese) 100 x 20mcg
t3 cytomel 100 x 25mcg
t5s 60 x Tabs (Ephedrine30mg/Aspirin30mg/Caffeine200mg)
PEPTIDES
tan MT2 10MG/VIAL
tan MT1 10MG/VIAL
PT141 10MG/VIAL
MGF 2MG/VIAL
SERMORELIN 2MG/VIAL
GHRP6 5mg/vial
GHRP2 5mg/vial
CJC 1925 2mg/vial
IGF 0.1mg/vial
RAW CAPS
Winny - Stanozolol - 100 x 10mg
Dbol - Methandienone - 100 x 10mg
Anavar - Oxandrolone - 100 x 10mg
Nolvadex - 50 x 10mg
Clomid - 50 x 50mg

1) Can you please tell me what I should be doing now? (Still in mid cycle with d-bol and deca).
2) Should I be taking anything after this cycle?
3) Am I supposed to take a break completly after cycle? If so, how long? Also, when I start back, what should I be taking? Same thing? When?
4) To keep results, do i have to take any of these forever? I realize a lot is water retention...
5) What you mean by how do I break down my 2 day splits? (Im new)
6) I dont know what pct or acetate dosage is. And I sleep without any problems. Ive never had trouble sleeping or falling asleep
Here is the website. Maybe it helps? Zaralone International Pharmaceuticals

Please write back! Thanks !

Originally Posted by lewi

2)clomid - although someone else can give you dosaging on it, im not good with pct

For pct I would suggest....

Ask your source to get you HCG ( its cheep and he should have no trouble getting it ) you need 5,000iu's.

On the last two weeks of your cycle take 500iu's every other day for 10 days The hcg should end before you start the nolva and clomid.

What you change your cycle to med wise( ie swapping the rip for test enanthate ) will determine the timing for when to start pct. So let us know when you decide.

Week 1-3 50mg clomid a day
week 1-4 20mg nolvadex a day

Optional but not necessary GHRP-6 100mcg 3 times a day for 6 weeks.

A couple things. I would choose to run an AI on cycle...I use Aromasin. You want to check estrogen level in check, that why you don't run into having nipple issues.

http://gmjbodybuilding.com/anabolic-...-563/#post2375

It was mention to use GHRP-6 I perfer GHRP-2 it cause a larger release of GH and doesn't cause hunger and gastric mobilty. I would also consider using Mod GRF(1-29) along with the GHRP. The two of those combine are synergist..

You guys are great! Thanks!
So just so I got this straight, Im going to go ahead and order test 250 + clomid. And continue like I am. So stopping D-bol after week 6 (for some reason I have ALOT of extra pills, even after taking 3 a day. Do these go bad?) Once I run out of ripped, I will continue Deca + Test 250 up intil week 12, unless I run out of either sooner. In this case, I will start on clomid at 50mg p/day for 3 weeks.
Then after 12 weeks off cycle, I can start over?
So my my final questions are (hopefully)
1) Is it the same dosage of test 250 as ripped? 1mg 2x p/week? along with deca 1mg p/week and d-bol 3x p/day (until i run out)?
2) Im not sure about the whole nolvadex thing. I barely have any chest at all, thats why i am stressing all this; I look like a kid there??
3) I will ask about HCG but dont see it on the list? What happens if I cant get it?
4) You mention ripped 200 is for cutting while test is for mass gaining? from all that i said, what do you think i need? Whats the difference?

Thanks!!
3)

Originally Posted by Aware72

A couple things. I would choose to run an AI on cycle...I use Aromasin. You want to check estrogen level in check, that why you don't run into having nipple issues.

http://gmjbodybuilding.com/anabolic-...-563/#post2375

It was mention to use GHRP-6 I perfer GHRP-2 it cause a larger release of GH and doesn't cause hunger and gastric mobilty. I would also consider using Mod GRF(1-29) along with the GHRP. The two of those combine are synergist..

Did you notice a difference when you added in the mod grf ?

I have used it with dac at 500mcg 2 x week and all I got was a lot of water retention and blood pressure through the roof and with out dac 100mcg 3 x day didnt notice any difference both where combined with ghrp6.

But ye aromasin on cycle is a wise move I prefer adex but horses for coures's and all that.